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I read an article about how old cartoons were filmed. The people in these cartoons are incredibly realistic. The secret was exactly as you said. First, real actors were filmed on black-and-white film, then their figures were outlined and a cartoon was made from drawings. That is, first, a real movie, where everything is true and without mistakes, just like that.
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Bingo. I made clear water.

https://www.mediafire.com/file/w5dn3v8jkpu536...25BC%25D0%25B8_3.avi/file
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wow, that really does look great!
I'm almost afraid to ask, but could you create a manual about how to create this? Creating and preparing the images, creating the layers, assembling in a video editor, etc. I am very sure more members will be very interested in trying out what you accomplished. It really does look great. Could you share the water gif?
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Dear Keet. I will be happy to try to tell you about the whole process. I'm not worried that this goes beyond the scope of the topic of this forum. He's still talking about the SH3D program. First of all, I want to talk about the phenomenon of free software. I must say right away that my thoughts do not relate to our holy cow in any way, everything is transparent and clean here, like in glacial water. SH3D stands aside. But the entire information field that fills the Internet is fraught with difficulties and even dangers. Because to catch a large fish, a fisherman must first throw small fish and even a simple worm into the river. And this big fish is you and me. The most important and exciting task is to eat a worm and not get into the frying pan. Yes, yes. Unfortunately, we are not fishermen on this safari. I use the video editor in the free version of Videopad, as well as the free online version of Photoshop. It has all the functions I need. But all the time I feel like they are trying to drag me into a frying pan, limiting my desires and possibilities. This is normal, I understand that fishermen need to live with pleasure, but I prefer my not the widest river and try to stay there, it's calmer for me there. Developers specially insert a banner in the most interesting and important place of work - "you will not succeed now, click on the payment link to get additional features. Give up." Yes, this is the easiest way to my goal. But someone else's frying pan does not please in any way, it does not give pleasure from winning in the end. That's why I prefer to suffer and not take the bait. It's more interesting this way, although it's more difficult, and it takes more time. I'll start giving out my explanations in separate portions. Because here it is really difficult to tell in a nutshell about the process of eating worms in the river. biggrin blushing blushing blushing biggrin
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Andrei, you are right. I religiously stick to open source software. Partly because I'm 100% on Linux where most of the available software is open source. A very good alternative for Photoshop is Gimp. With that I have never needed someting like Photoshop. It works on all operating systems so a description of a function is beneficial to users independent of what OS they use. And concerning open source, I "pay back" a little with the dodecagon.nl site where I have put everything available in the public domain.

OpenShot and Flowblade are open source video editors that are very easy for beginners but I have no experience with them. Openshot depends on Blender and the versions of both have to be kept in sync. Since I already use Blender in addition to Sweet Home 3D for model creation that's no problem. Flowblade is only available for Linux and avaialable in most repositories (Openshot is also in most Linux repositories).
Shotcut is a kind of advanced version of OpenShot. Much steeper learning curve but it does support 4K video creation. And there are lots of video tutorials for it.

(If you want I can compile your partial explanations when they appear into a manual.)
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Keet, thanks for the offer of help! Let's start slowly. Before starting work, you need to collect all the material so that everything is at hand. This is primarily a rendering of the room in SH3D, on the basis of which the final video product will be created. I made a render like this. As usual, I promote the hemispherical lighting system in this topic, they make the picture as realistic as possible.



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All chrome products are made by changing the OBJ files in the corresponding groups, after g the prefix sweethome3d_window_mirror is inserted_ , The render is made at the fourth quality level, the resolution is 3000x3000 pixels. The maximum level gives the best result for chrome surfaces, without dots and noise. But it does not reflect in glossy and glass surfaces. There are no such people here, so I made a render at the fourth maximum level.
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now I have found several gif animation files and MP4 video files: two cats on a ready-made transparent background (GIF), a girl on a green background chromakey (MP4), falling water on a black background (GIF), a shimmering surface of water (MP4). For further work in the free versions of editors, the size of these files is important, because the free versions work with large files with great reluctance)))). Two cats are the simplest and lightest (40 KB and 5 MB). The girl turned out to be heavy (391 MB), waterfall (17MB), water surface (47MB). For processing in the photo editor, lighter files are needed, I managed to re-export through Videopad with a reduced resolution. For example, the girl turned out to be 1.3 MB now, but through the free version only in AVI format, which is not readable in the online photo editor!! Stay calm. There are free online converters to get GIFs from AVI again
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and a rainbow on a transparent background, I made it myself


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We have two files that need to be edited and the background removed. This is a girl on a green background and the most difficult thing is the waterfall. For the effect of falling water, it is necessary to clean all the black places around and inside the jet very efficiently. This is best done in Photoshop, clean every frame. I probably don't know how to do it fast yet, so it took me almost all day to clean such a video.. You also need to export to GIF format with a transparency of 25%, so that the water appears to be transparent water, and not colored foam. I ended up with something that didn't quite look like a wish, but I gave up and used what I got.. With the girl, it turned out to clean the background in another photo editor VS DC Free Video Editor. There is a special background removal function, but it cleans roughly, leaving crumbs and light spots in places. If the figure in the frame is small, then it's fine. Better background cleaning needs to be studied, there are lessons and recommendations, I have not mastered yet.
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now you can open the video editor. You should feel like Steven Spielberg (no less) and think everything through in advance. I decided that the cats would sit on the sink, one inside the bowl, the other outside, part of the front edge of the sink would overlap the front cat. The bath will be filled with water with a video texture of the surface of the shimmering water. Water will not flow out of the upper tropical watering can at the very beginning of the clip. A girl will sit in the bathtub and look at the rain shower. What needs to be done to make all the figures appear as if in the real space of the bathroom? You need to prepare the layers from the SH3D renderer. I made three such layers.

the hole for the water in the bathtub (I showed it in black, in fact it is a transparent place), this hole must be made as smoothly and accurately as possible, it will be the edge of visible water, a very important job. the prepared picture with a hole must be saved in PNG format. I marked the most important borders in red, they should be smooth.



the second layer needs to be made for the cat and for the girl with the waterfall, this is the front edge of the bowl sink and the front edge of the bathtub. You also need to make these edges very carefully and smoothly, they are important. Other places that do not participate in the contact with the figures can be done less carefully. In the video editor, all the layers will be combined into one whole image without visible borders. I made a long curved hole on purpose to show you that in the end, when you combine the layers, nothing will be visible.


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