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Option to replace furniture
I feel as well as the Modify furniture... it would be helpful to have Replace furniture... The chosen replacement furniture would replace the original item at the same X,Y, rotation and elevation coordinates. The replacement furniture could either be chosen from the furniture list or externally imported through the normal import furniture window.
There have been several times when I have imported an external obj model, made some further changes (externally in Art of Illusion) to the obj model,then import it again, each time carefully typing or copying and pasting all the coordinates, rotation and elevation information.
One further question if I may. Out of interest why (I know it can be changed) are the default walls only 7.5cm? I wondered if 20cm for internal and thicker for external walls might help encourage users to construct buildings to exact scale and because they will have to build bigger or nearer to actual scale it will help them have a better understanding visualizing room space when using the virtual visitor. Might also help users overcome the problem of building too small and then the virtual visitor (at the correct default settings) being to big to navigate the property easily.
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Re: Option to replace furniture
Instead of a adding a menu, the furniture modification dialog could show the 3D model of the edited piece and a list to choose an other one.
The default thickness is 7.5 cm simply because it's the thickness of the partition walls in my home. As the thickness of exterior walls may vary a lot from one home to the other, I preferred to use that value as a default. I wouldn't mind to change this value but I don't believe that increasing it would help to create larger rooms. A tip showing the squared value of the current length (or the result of multiplying the current length with the length of the previous wall when it exists) would probably help more users, because I think most people know the standard surface of rooms as soon as they moved once (for example, in France flats, bedrooms are around 10 m², a living room is most of the time between 10 m² and 25 m², a kitchen between 5 m² and 10 m²).
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Re: Option to replace furniture
Hi All! I have read over the blog and let me see if I understand the dialog. db4tech, you wish for standard regulation size furniture and walls? Is this correct?
If so, Puybaret, this does in fact speak to the creation of standard pieces and functions that will support the learning of proportions and scale.
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Re: Option to replace furniture
Instead of a adding a menu, the furniture modification dialog could show the 3D model of the edited piece and a list to choose an other one.
Yes that would work and be helpful, as long as it also enables both internal and loading external models as a choice of replace.
The default thickness is 7.5 cm simply because it's the thickness of the partition walls in my home. As the thickness of exterior walls may vary a lot from one home to the other, I preferred to use that value as a default. I wouldn't mind to change this value but I don't believe that increasing it would help to create larger rooms. A tip showing the squared value of the current length (or the result of multiplying the current length with the length of the previous wall when it exists) would probably help more users, because I think most people know the standard surface of rooms as soon as they moved once (for example, in France flats, bedrooms are around 10 m², a living room is most of the time between 10 m² and 25 m², a kitchen between 5 m² and 10 m²).
Wow! I'm am quite surprised and almost shocked that your walls are so thin, it must be very difficult with soundproofing. Is that the standard partition wall thickness in France? I recently had a stud partition wall built and measured it just a few hours ago for you, including plaster (which I felt I should do because your Sweet Home walls come with surfaces attached) it is almost 14cm.
I still think a default thickness of 20cm or more would help encourage users to build bigger. I would imagine almost every user will start by building external walls (which of course need to be a lot thicker than 7.5cm) then work on the innards. If they see the walls as a thicker mass they will automatically draw adjoining walls with greater lengths and distances between to prevent them looking too cramped on the plan.
If you wouldn't mind changing it, then go for it! After all people can always make the walls thinner if they want them.
I know it would be a bit like the question "How long is a piece of string?" but I wonder if there are any builders reading this if they could suggest a good average starting external/internal wall thickness?
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Re: Option to replace furniture
Gentlemen:
Having been in the interior decorating business in The Netherlands for many years, I'm familiar with walls and floors :-)
A program like SH3D that's being used all over the world -above all- needs to be flexible. There are no national standards, leave alone worldwide standards. Once you change wall thickness in your preferences, SH3D remembers that for your next use. That, in my opinion, is the best way to deal with it.
The same can be said about wall height. In The Netherlands there's a building code that dictates a minimum room height, but from my own experience I know that one rarely encounters a house with exactly that height.
The same goes for every other "standard" size: the use of metric or imperial system will dictate whether sizes are rounded to the nearest centimeter, or to the nearest inch or foot. And most probably it will be a mix, as some industries have traditionally been dominated by one or the other system.
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Re: Option to replace furniture
Hi All! I have read over the blog and let me see if I understand the dialog. db4tech, you wish for standard regulation size furniture and walls? Is this correct?
If so, Puybaret, this does in fact speak to the creation of standard pieces and functions that will support the learning of proportions and scale.
Hi manna4ang,
Firstly welcome to the forum.
In answer to your question, both yes and no you see almost all the furniture that is available on the download page (if it is in a multiple furniture package) is already to the correct scale when used in the plan, only separate imported (OBJ, DAE, 3DS plus others) furniture and objects need to be scaled correctly on import.
Your point is valid too though. It is mainly a good base wall thickness I thought would be most helpful, especially for new users.
After all people can always make the walls thinner if they want them.
you see almost all the furniture that is available on the download page (if it is in a multiple furniture package) is already to the correct scale when used in the plan, only separate imported (OBJ, DAE, 3DS plus others) furniture and objects need to be scaled correctly on import.
