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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
In Sweet Home 3D 5.5 released last week, I added the 3 following options to Windows installer to let you choose the Java 3D version and architecture used by the program when there are some problems: /os.arch=x86 will force the installation of the 32 bit version of Sweet Home 3D under Windows 64 bit /j3d.version=1.5.2 will force the installation of Java 3D 1.5.2 (default Java 3D version until Windows 7) /j3d.version=1.6 will force the installation of Java 3D 1.6 (default Java 3D version from Windows 8)
To use these options, simply execute the installer in a cmd window followed by the options of your choice separated by spaces. For example:
For people not used to commands, this can be achieved this way: - Press <Windows> + R keys - Type cmd and press <enter> key - Drag and drop the icon of the installer SweetHome3D-5.5-windows.exe in the command window - Type a space in the cmd window - Copy /os.arch=x86 /j3d.version=1.5.2 and paste it in the cmd window - Press <enter> key.
From you last comments, using Java 3D 1.5.2 after updating your graphics driver might be enough to run Sweet Home 3D under Windows 64 bit, in which case you could first try to run the installer with the option /j3d.version=1.5.2
I'm looking forward to reading your comments to be able to modify the FAQ accordingly.
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Emmanuel Puybaret, Sweet Home 3D creator
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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
For some reason after a few days the old problem was back even though I didn't change anything. However, I had to replace my laptop this week and with the new one, also running Win 10, Java 1.8 and Java 3D 1.6 in 64 bit mode, everything worked fine right out of the box.
Good news, problem solved, bad news I won't be able to test the changes to the installer.
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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Hi,
Running SH3D after a long period without using it, seems I'm hitting the same issue: it's abnormaly slow. For example, trying to draw a wall on a new project takes something like 5 seconds. Sometimes it even takes longer for the wall to be drawn on the drawing area than on the 3D viewer.
I'm running Arch Linux on a Precision 5510, with i5-6300HQ Skylake CPUs, 16Gb of RAM. Graphic card is a Nvidia GM107GLM (Quadro M1000M). I've a 4k screen (3840x2160).
I'm running Java through OpenJDK 1.9:
java -version openjdk version "9" OpenJDK Runtime Environment (build 9+181) OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM (build 9+181, mixed mode)
Java 3D version is 1.6.0.
SH3D version is 5.5.2:
Here is some of my attemps to workaround the situation, but without luck:
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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Many thanks to Emmanuel! The /j3d.version=1.5.2 option works for me. Not dirty trick anymore, just adding the Sweethome3D.l4j.ini with changed options and everything works fine. In my case no performance issues with Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator, Driver 9.14.3.1177 and Windows 10 32bit, 1607.
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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Quick follow-up:
- I've tested SweetHome3D on a fresh Ubuntu 17.10 install, and it frozen when I started drawing a wall (tried twice)
- back on my main computer running arch, I've tested SH3D version from 4.6 to 5.4, here is the summary
* 4.6: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (click is shifted, icons are two small, drawing grid is too small) * 5.0: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (same) * 5.1: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (same) * 5.2: responsiveness OK, HDPi support NOK (same) * 5.3: responsiveness NOK (oops), HDPi support OK (yay :)) * 5.4: responsiveness NOK, HDPi support NOK (click is shifted, icons are two small, drawing grid is too small) * 5.5: responsiveness NOK, HDPi support NOK (same) * 5.5.2: responsiveness NOK, HDPi support NOK (same)
So, seems something is going on with 5.3 release. Given this release fixes the HDPi support (for me), it may be that the responsiveness issue is related. Strangely, starting from 5.4, HDPi support is broken again (for me), but the responsiveness isn't fixed. Sadly, from this quick investigation, I see that there is no release with both responsiveness and HDPi support for me.
Any hint out from those new elements? Anything I can test out?
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Re: 3d View suddenly impossibly slow
Slowness that appeared suddenly is an issue here. What can an ordinary user do within the usual administrative tools for Windows and Java? I have Windows Home 10.0.16299 and Java Versin 8 Update 151 build 1.8.0_151-b12
I'm looking forward to reading your comments to be able to modify the FAQ accordingly.
For me, Sweet home 3d was crashing right from the start with "fatal error (...) update your driver/directx".
I tried this and it works wonderful! Anything else I tried doesn't work, but this worked, in that exact combination (tried it one without the other and was still crashing).
My info:
OS Name: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro OS Version: 10.0.16299 N/A Build 16299 OS Manufacturer: Microsoft Corporation OS Configuration: Standalone Workstation OS Build Type: Multiprocessor Free BIOS Version: Phoenix Technologies Ltd. 07PR, 21.11.2012 ------------------------------------------------------ Intel(R) HD Graphics 3000
